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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
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Subject: Re: Earliest DOS for Kermit 3.15?
Date: 18 Aug 1997 17:56:24 GMT
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In article <1xdFNgQTmrVp@cc.usu.edu>, Joe Doupnik <jrd@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
: In article <5t9opl$9mm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes:
: > In article <33f788b6.0@amhnt2.amherst.edu>,
: > John W. Manly <jwmanly@unix.amherst.edu> wrote:
: > : Hi there. Two questions for Masters Of Kermit:
: > :
: > : 1) Will the final release of Kermit 3.15 include the Kerlite and Kermite
: > : versions?
: > :
: > Yes.
: >
: > : In particular, I'm hoping for the Kerlite version to provide a
: > : lightweight, functional terminal emulator for use on old PCs...
: > :
: > You mean "Kermite". KERLITE.EXE doesn't have a terminal emulator -- that's
: > why it's so light :-)
: >
: > : like IBM model 25's or even (gasp) the old dual-drive PC Portables.
: > :
: > KERMITE.EXE should work fine on them.
: >
: > : 2) Will Kerlite (either the 3.15 version, or if one isn't planned, the
: > : 3.14 version) run on such old hardware, and in particular, what is the
: > : earliest version of MS-DOS on which it will run?
: > :
: > It should run on the very first IBM PC off the production line, provided
: > you have upgraded its DOS version to at least 2.0. (Actually I can't swear
: > that it won't run under DOS 1.x, but we don't claim that it does.)
: >
: > - Frank
:
: Opps, our secrets are showing. MSK requires DOS 2.0 or above because
: it needs the function calls absent from DOS 1.0. But it tells you this if it
: is started under DOS 1.x. DOS 3.30 is a good minimum, if you can find it.
: For those new to the game, DOS 1.x lacks the notion of subdirectories,
: amongst other things. The reduced size editions of MSK will be available
: with the main release, once we complete the beta process on the latter.
: Joe D.
:
I should also have qualified the above by saying that the PC must have
sufficient memory to load the program (on top of DOS and other items that take
up PC memory) -- probably around 200K free needed for KERMITE.EXE, but it
remains to be seen -- and you'll need some kind of disk drive unless you know
what you are doing, and of course some kind of communication device too.
So don't expect MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 to run on a 16K cassette-only system :-)
Yes, DOS 3.30 is a good minimum, especially for users of non-English text (or,
at least, non-CP437 text) since this was the first DOS version that supported
code-page switching.
- Frank